In this continuation of our review of the preterit tense, we'll look at all those not-so-regular preterit forms, and organize them onto a map. We'll also hear from some non-regular verbs about how they don't like being called irregular, and finally Esti can't stop listing off verbs.
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Hi everyone,
The Preterit and the Present tenses are the two tenses with the most non-regular forms. From now on, explanations on how to conjugate verbs will be much less complicated, and our videos will focus more on usage than formation.
Take a close look at the endings of the /J/ oriented minority verbs. Notice anything strange?
Also, the StemChange verbs (tm) actually *do* take regular preterit endings; it's the true irregulars and the Minority verbs that have the alternate endings... and notice that they're all accent mark free!
Enjoy!
Great lesson! I'll never call minority verbs "irregular" again (at least not without a bad conscience).
Did I just miss it or did you actually turn a blind eye on the minority verb "poner"?
poner - to put
And again it's not just one verb but a whole bunch: anteponer, componer, contraponer, deponer, descomponer, disponer, exponer, imponer, indisponer, interponer, oponer, posponer, predisponer, presuponer, proponer, recomponer, reponer, sobreponer, superponer, suponer, ...
Man this is going to reduce it from studying all irregulars (which is boring and hard) to having groups of them to make life easy, thanks SP for a great lesson, keep up the good work,
Ah esti: you can tell me more verbs, JP is not watching keep going with the list as the more we can group within each the easier it will become.
And JP your bad side has got the better of you at last, you need to give him a chance to speak you know.
JP, Could it be that the winsome "Dormir" is over-identifying with the minority verbs? Is that why she thinks she has a different set of endings?
me encantó esta la clave! fue una revista bonísima de las formas del pretérito.
JP, podría poner en el sitio el "arbol geneológico" de los verbos que se usa en los vídeos? creo que sería muy útil poder hacer notas en ello para las formas que nos dan problemas.
muchísimas gracias!
Are the "maps" (the one shown in this lesson, and the one shown in the present tense lesson) available to download? Those would be a great resource to have.
Si, quisiera si ponga el arbol geneologico en esta sitio. Muchas gracias!
The map from the present tense was done up as a PDF by Vikia Here. be sure and thank her.
vikia - muchas gracias! muy bien hecho.
¡Muchas gracias Cobre y Vikia!
I've noticed that the J minority verbs in the 3rd person plural end in -eron not -ieron. I also want to know why you didn't go over the conjugation of reírse?
These lessons are great! I've also found other stem changing verbs in preterit. I found them in an old spanish/english dictionary.
i-y
huir - to flee
huí huimos
huiste huisteis
huyó huyeron
caer - to fall
caí caímos
caíste caísteis
cayó cayeron
oir - to listen, hear
oí oímos
oiste oísteis
oyó oyeron
argüir - to argue
argüí argüimos
argüiste argüisteis
arguyó arguyeron
And another e-i
ceñir - to surround
ceñí ceñimos
ceñiste ceñisteis
ciñó ciñero
And another that changes from e - i or y
roer - to nibble
roí roímos
roíste roísteis
royó royeron
I am writing a script for my Spanish students (8-10) and I learnt Spanish in Argentina so am used to using escuchar for 'hear' as well as 'listen' but would like to use Oir in the script - and am not at all familiar with it. When you are saying:
I did not hear you (plural) (is it no le oi, o no se oi)
we did not hear you, (plural) (no les oimos...?)
It is all very confusing -
Thanks for your help
Hola amigos,
My dictionary gives the following as an example for the verb "oir" and it has me a bit confused:
"se oyeron pasos" I (or you etc. ) heard footsteps.
Its not a reflexive verb, and that doesn't sound like the passive voice to me. Can anyone illuminate me on why the form with "se" is used?
kikuyu
It really looks like the passive voice to me. That is to say the “impersonal se” or what I think JP calls “the reflective se in the passive voice”. I would translate it as footsteps are heard.
stevestrv, thanks for your feedback!
interesting,I guess the passive present "se oyen pasos"(you hear footsteps) is a little easier for me to assimilate. I like your translation and its starting to sound a little less awkward to me. Gracias de nuevo!
Kikuyu newbies elementries
Kikuyu you are welcome.
newbies elementries
The “impersonal se” is not a subject normally taught at the elementary level. In another thread I posted some examples and I know it seems arrogant but I am going to repeat them here because you will see the "impersonal se" a lot and if you know how do conjugate verbs in the present tense, you might see a pattern.
se habla español – Spanish is spoken (singular)
se hablan dos idiomas – two languages are spoken (plural)
se cierra el banco temprano – the bank is closed early (singular)
se cierran los bancos temprano - the banks are closed early (plural)
se vende – it is for sale (singular)
Sí se puede – yes it can be done
If you want to find more information on this structure, you can google “impersonal se”
The Videos are great JP (et.al.)
Check out this BBC article on language learning and gestures.
immersion
¡baile!
Also, this article is really interesting. It's a media release about research into successfully learning a language. The answer is to listen to it even if you don't understand it - I know I'm preaching to the converted here! But I found it interesting anyhow.
http://www.victoria.ac.nz/home/about/newspubs/news/ViewNews.aspx?id=2458&newslabel=hn
In the "Expansion" tab the bold words at the top of each section don't seem to go with the examples beneath them. Aren't the examples supposed to use some form of the verb in bold at the top of the section?
Ahh, another one JP missed when he was fixing bad proof reading.
Good eye dannystx.
There is only 1 example of the use of each word, and they put 3 in each section instead of 1
That means that after
(which is listed under Fue)
none of the lines has a label to point you to the word of interest.
Danny and cobre
Expansions fixed!
Thanks liliana!
great tips! I'm currently learning about preterito perfecto and preterito indefinido
how about the special verbs like gustar, doler, encantar? they don't change in the present, do they change in the preterite?
It's not that they don't change, its that they are they are all verbs that are usually conjugated in the 3rd person.
i.e it pleases me, it hurts him, it enchants them etc. and this format doesn't change in the past tenses
e.g. me gustó, me dolí, me encantó,(pp) me gustaba, me dolía, me encantaba.(pi)
gracias don perigo! great tip
de nada, truth be told i thought afterwards i could have given better examples instead of using "me" as the indirect object each time
i.e. nos gustó it, pleased us, le dolí, it hurt him, les encantó it enchanted them,(pp)
les gustaba, it would please them, me dolía, it was hurting me, nos encantaba, it was enchanting to us.(pi)
as you can see the subject of the verb remains the same (it) but the person that the verb isbeing done to changes.
check out this pa que sepasfor more on gustar.
Soy profesor de español y creo que estos materiales son excelentes para aquellas personas que quieren realmente aprender el español. Los felicito por tan encomiable esfuerzo.
Diosdado Corrales
It is official. Tengo un enamorado de Esti
please dont hurt him, todos estamos enamorados de esti :-)
Tengo la mapa de verbos presentes. Esta' una de verbos preteritos en el Red o un otro sitio?