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    <description><![CDATA[Today we review how to narrate a story in the past using both the preterit and imperfect tenses.  They're not interchangeable, so you better know how to use them.  In this edition, Lili eats some cookies, Leo eats some cake with his face, and Marco gets a taste of the bitter cold.  ]]></description>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>maybe, Leo wants to savor the past in the present</p>
<p>&nbsp; <em>imperfect - past action important or continuing in the present</em></p>
<p>and Marco wants to cut it off and forget it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;<em> preterit - distinct action which is over and done.</em></p>
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        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe, Leo wants to savor the past in the present</p>
<p>&nbsp; <em>imperfect - past action important or continuing in the present</em></p>
<p>and Marco wants to cut it off and forget it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;<em> preterit - distinct action which is over and done.</em></p>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="line-height: 115%; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Can I please build on Sponge67&rsquo;s question?</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span style="line-height: 115%; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt; mso-ansi-language: ES-CR;" lang="ES-CR">Marco said &ldquo;Fue un d&iacute;a terrible.&rdquo;<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span></span><span style="line-height: 115%; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;">If he continued the sentence so that the horrible day<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>was background for the events of the day would he have said &ldquo;era un d&iacute;a&rdquo;.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="line-height: 115%; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt; mso-ansi-language: ES-CR;" lang="ES-CR"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">For example</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="line-height: 115%; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt; mso-ansi-language: ES-CR;" lang="ES-CR"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">&ldquo;(Era/fue)<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>un d&iacute;a terrible, perd&iacute; mi trabajo, me esposa me dej&oacute; y mi perro se morri&oacute;n&rdquo;</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="line-height: 115%; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">My guess is that in this case &ldquo;era&rdquo; is correct but I am amazed that after all this time the preterit and imperfect still can confuse me.</span></span></p>]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="line-height: 115%; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Can I please build on Sponge67&rsquo;s question?</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span style="line-height: 115%; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt; mso-ansi-language: ES-CR;" lang="ES-CR">Marco said &ldquo;Fue un d&iacute;a terrible.&rdquo;<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span></span><span style="line-height: 115%; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;">If he continued the sentence so that the horrible day<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>was background for the events of the day would he have said &ldquo;era un d&iacute;a&rdquo;.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="line-height: 115%; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt; mso-ansi-language: ES-CR;" lang="ES-CR"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">For example</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="line-height: 115%; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt; mso-ansi-language: ES-CR;" lang="ES-CR"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">&ldquo;(Era/fue)<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>un d&iacute;a terrible, perd&iacute; mi trabajo, me esposa me dej&oacute; y mi perro se morri&oacute;n&rdquo;</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="line-height: 115%; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">My guess is that in this case &ldquo;era&rdquo; is correct but I am amazed that after all this time the preterit and imperfect still can confuse me.</span></span></p>]]></content:encoded>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>thx for the replies - i just found the link below which may also help - may be "Setting the scene or background" &nbsp;as you say is the key and Marco just uses <span style="color: #ff0000;">fue </span>to describe the day in total and then goes on to set the scene with <span style="color: #ff0030;">est&aacute;bamos en mi casa</span></p>
<p>http://teachers.net/mentors/spanish/topic22626/8.13.09.13.13.19.html</p>]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thx for the replies - i just found the link below which may also help - may be "Setting the scene or background" &nbsp;as you say is the key and Marco just uses <span style="color: #ff0000;">fue </span>to describe the day in total and then goes on to set the scene with <span style="color: #ff0030;">est&aacute;bamos en mi casa</span></p>
<p>http://teachers.net/mentors/spanish/topic22626/8.13.09.13.13.19.html</p>]]></content:encoded>
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<p>Thank you for the link</p>]]></description>
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<p>Thank you for the link</p>]]></content:encoded>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>"Leo estaba vestido de Superman" is said in the video to be preterit, but I think you mean imperfect. The time on that is 3:06.</p>]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Leo estaba vestido de Superman" is said in the video to be preterit, but I think you mean imperfect. The time on that is 3:06.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p><strong><em>danielrkienitz</em></strong></p>
<p>&nbsp;yo estaba vestido de superman (2.40 ) is correctly referred to as the imperfect (i <em>was</em> dressed as)&nbsp;although, as you noticed,&nbsp; at (3.08 )&nbsp;the same phrase&nbsp;is referred to as the&nbsp;preterit (i&nbsp;<em>dressed</em> as)</p>
<p>&nbsp;strangely what&nbsp;he fails to mention in this lesson is that what is usually known as "el preterito" is infact&nbsp;el pret&eacute;rito <em><a title="indefinido" href="http://www.123teachme.com/learn_spanish/conversational_spanish_preterit" target="_blank">indefinido </a>or el pret&eacute;rito <a title="vestir" href="http://www.verbix.com/webverbix/Spanish/vestir.html" target="_blank">perfecto simple</a> </em>as opposed to&nbsp; el pert&eacute;rit <em>imperfecto</em>. i.e. they are both preterit tenses.</p>
<p>Still, well spotted, I have no doubt that JP meant to say&nbsp;imperfect at 3.08&nbsp;</p>]]></description>
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<p>&nbsp;yo estaba vestido de superman (2.40 ) is correctly referred to as the imperfect (i <em>was</em> dressed as)&nbsp;although, as you noticed,&nbsp; at (3.08 )&nbsp;the same phrase&nbsp;is referred to as the&nbsp;preterit (i&nbsp;<em>dressed</em> as)</p>
<p>&nbsp;strangely what&nbsp;he fails to mention in this lesson is that what is usually known as "el preterito" is infact&nbsp;el pret&eacute;rito <em><a title="indefinido" href="http://www.123teachme.com/learn_spanish/conversational_spanish_preterit" target="_blank">indefinido </a>or el pret&eacute;rito <a title="vestir" href="http://www.verbix.com/webverbix/Spanish/vestir.html" target="_blank">perfecto simple</a> </em>as opposed to&nbsp; el pert&eacute;rit <em>imperfecto</em>. i.e. they are both preterit tenses.</p>
<p>Still, well spotted, I have no doubt that JP meant to say&nbsp;imperfect at 3.08&nbsp;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>I think this is a great video and will help make connections for some with whom the differences have not registered.&nbsp; I always teach the imperfect as a "timeline in the past" and the preterite as a specific "hash mark" in the said timeline.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Also, it can be helpful to think of the imperfect as "an ongoing movie in the past" and the preterite as a "snapshot or single foto in the past."</p>
<p>I find that for me personally, the biggest problem is thinking about it too much!&nbsp; If I trust my gut, relying on what I know feels right, I rarely make mistakes with either.&nbsp;</p>
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        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is a great video and will help make connections for some with whom the differences have not registered.&nbsp; I always teach the imperfect as a "timeline in the past" and the preterite as a specific "hash mark" in the said timeline.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Also, it can be helpful to think of the imperfect as "an ongoing movie in the past" and the preterite as a "snapshot or single foto in the past."</p>
<p>I find that for me personally, the biggest problem is thinking about it too much!&nbsp; If I trust my gut, relying on what I know feels right, I rarely make mistakes with either.&nbsp;</p>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>much as i enjoyed these videos I've always thought that&nbsp;this one&nbsp;missed a trick for that very reason. As a&nbsp;video&nbsp;it could have contrasted continuous action with still frames. using a slideshow to illustrate the imperfect strikes me as potentially confusing. the&nbsp;filmstrip analogy is the one that works best for me though i like the pencil&nbsp; idea as well.</p>
<p>perhaps its an insignificant detail but i was long&nbsp;misled by explanations that focus on&nbsp;the action itself . It seems to me that&nbsp;the most important factor in choosing between the simple past&nbsp;and imperfect is <em>personal choice</em>. it simply depends how one wishes to <em>present</em>&nbsp;an action to ones interlocutor.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Whether the action was short, long, repetitive habitual etc does not determine the choice of tense.&nbsp;<em>You</em> must decide&nbsp;which aspect of the action you wish to communicate. &nbsp;turning on&nbsp; a light is about as instantanious an action as one can imagine but i can still choose to say "i was turning on the light when..... or i would turn on the lights every day...i used to turn on the lights...</p>
<p>nor is it determined by how one percieves an event, the reason we dont&nbsp;need a simple <em>present</em> tense is that we always experience&nbsp;<em>the length</em> of new <em>a</em>ctions. leo could not experience his birthday party in the preterit. however from the vantage point of the present&nbsp;one can <em>choose</em> to communicate&nbsp;past events with a&nbsp;key descriptive frame or to replay&nbsp;the scene&nbsp;</p>]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>much as i enjoyed these videos I've always thought that&nbsp;this one&nbsp;missed a trick for that very reason. As a&nbsp;video&nbsp;it could have contrasted continuous action with still frames. using a slideshow to illustrate the imperfect strikes me as potentially confusing. the&nbsp;filmstrip analogy is the one that works best for me though i like the pencil&nbsp; idea as well.</p>
<p>perhaps its an insignificant detail but i was long&nbsp;misled by explanations that focus on&nbsp;the action itself . It seems to me that&nbsp;the most important factor in choosing between the simple past&nbsp;and imperfect is <em>personal choice</em>. it simply depends how one wishes to <em>present</em>&nbsp;an action to ones interlocutor.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Whether the action was short, long, repetitive habitual etc does not determine the choice of tense.&nbsp;<em>You</em> must decide&nbsp;which aspect of the action you wish to communicate. &nbsp;turning on&nbsp; a light is about as instantanious an action as one can imagine but i can still choose to say "i was turning on the light when..... or i would turn on the lights every day...i used to turn on the lights...</p>
<p>nor is it determined by how one percieves an event, the reason we dont&nbsp;need a simple <em>present</em> tense is that we always experience&nbsp;<em>the length</em> of new <em>a</em>ctions. leo could not experience his birthday party in the preterit. however from the vantage point of the present&nbsp;one can <em>choose</em> to communicate&nbsp;past events with a&nbsp;key descriptive frame or to replay&nbsp;the scene&nbsp;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>I am currently taking a spanish course and this short explanation has helped me more in 10 minutes than all the explanations of my teachers simply writing grammer rules on the board-thanks.</p>]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am currently taking a spanish course and this short explanation has helped me more in 10 minutes than all the explanations of my teachers simply writing grammer rules on the board-thanks.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>I would like to say the same as "bellybutton". Showing the grammar rules in such visual way is a super idea. Thanks!</p>
<p>You folks are crazy :-D I laughed a lot on these "face into the cake" examples. Great video!</p>]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to say the same as "bellybutton". Showing the grammar rules in such visual way is a super idea. Thanks!</p>
<p>You folks are crazy :-D I laughed a lot on these "face into the cake" examples. Great video!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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