SpanishPod - fabrizio Conversations http://spanishpod.com Learn Spanish on Your Terms en-us <![CDATA[Re: Love sick]]> @rodneyp

"la (copa) del estribo", the stirrup cup.

]]> @rodneyp

"la (copa) del estribo", the stirrup cup.

]]> <![CDATA[Re: Buying a camera]]> There is one main thing I don't agree with in your explanation.

You say that "a Felipe" is not an indirect object. Well, all the point here is that yes, it actually IS an indirect object. Why Spaniards use indirect object when referring to a person, even if the verb is transitive and it could take a direct object? As I said before, I don't know, maybe they think that's rude to treat a person like an object or who knows why, but the fact remains that they do use the indirect object. Once you accept this, there's nothing left to explain about why they say "Maria le ayuda", meaning that Maria helps Felipe, because "le" it's just the indirect object form of the 3rd person pronoun (while "lo/la" is the direct object form).

]]> There is one main thing I don't agree with in your explanation.

You say that "a Felipe" is not an indirect object. Well, all the point here is that yes, it actually IS an indirect object. Why Spaniards use indirect object when referring to a person, even if the verb is transitive and it could take a direct object? As I said before, I don't know, maybe they think that's rude to treat a person like an object or who knows why, but the fact remains that they do use the indirect object. Once you accept this, there's nothing left to explain about why they say "Maria le ayuda", meaning that Maria helps Felipe, because "le" it's just the indirect object form of the 3rd person pronoun (while "lo/la" is the direct object form).

]]> <![CDATA[Re: Buying a camera]]> <![CDATA[Re: Buying a camera]]> <![CDATA[Re: Buying a camera]]> Don, I have no idea about why they use this personal a in Spanish, but I'm convinced that leismo is just a direct consequence of personal a and not a different phenomenon on its own. You need to consider that le literally means a el o a ella. So the logic here is:

Maria ayuda a Felipe -> Maria ayuda a el -> Maria le ayuda

]]> Don, I have no idea about why they use this personal a in Spanish, but I'm convinced that leismo is just a direct consequence of personal a and not a different phenomenon on its own. You need to consider that le literally means a el o a ella. So the logic here is:

Maria ayuda a Felipe -> Maria ayuda a el -> Maria le ayuda

]]> <![CDATA[Re: Haití]]> Lo intenté cuatros otras veces:

Mac + Safari

Mac + Firefox

Win + Internet Explorer

Win + Firefox

Mismo resultado.

]]> Lo intenté cuatros otras veces:

Mac + Safari

Mac + Firefox

Win + Internet Explorer

Win + Firefox

Mismo resultado.

]]> <![CDATA[Re: Haití]]> jajaja

Pues, no creía que estabas ignorandome. Es que envié una copia del mensaje a mi mismo, y el cuerpo del mensaje estaba vacío.

]]> jajaja

Pues, no creía que estabas ignorandome. Es que envié una copia del mensaje a mi mismo, y el cuerpo del mensaje estaba vacío.

]]> <![CDATA[Re: Haití]]> ¡Hola Don! Intenté de contestar tu mensaje con el correo privado, pero creo que no te llego nada, ¿verdad?

]]> ¡Hola Don! Intenté de contestar tu mensaje con el correo privado, pero creo que no te llego nada, ¿verdad?

]]> <![CDATA[Re: Buying a camera]]> ¡Hola Steve! Feliz de encontrarte aquí otra vez.

Thank you for the links. I never paid attention to this personal a. So actually leismo is just a consequence of that.

]]> ¡Hola Steve! Feliz de encontrarte aquí otra vez.

Thank you for the links. I never paid attention to this personal a. So actually leismo is just a consequence of that.

]]> <![CDATA[Re: Buying a camera]]> Si no entiendo mal el cuadro de Liliana, seria mejor decir ayudarle en vez de ayudarlo/la porque es preferible decir ayudar a alguien que ayudar alguien. ¿Me equivoco?

]]> Si no entiendo mal el cuadro de Liliana, seria mejor decir ayudarle en vez de ayudarlo/la porque es preferible decir ayudar a alguien que ayudar alguien. ¿Me equivoco?

]]> <![CDATA[Re: Heater]]> Hi nancyann,

in Spanish they call memory foam espuma viscoelástica. So a memory foam mattress is a colchón de espuma viscoelástica.

]]> Hi nancyann,

in Spanish they call memory foam espuma viscoelástica. So a memory foam mattress is a colchón de espuma viscoelástica.

]]> <![CDATA[Re: Liliana, Liliana, Liliana! ]]> Ops, I had some issues posting from the iPhone. I corrected the previous message, but now I can't delete this one.

]]> Ops, I had some issues posting from the iPhone. I corrected the previous message, but now I can't delete this one.

]]> <![CDATA[Re: Liliana, Liliana, Liliana! ]]> No creo sea una frase típica. Hay muchos pocos resultados en Google.

]]> No creo sea una frase típica. Hay muchos pocos resultados en Google.

]]> <![CDATA[Re: Liliana, Liliana, Liliana! ]]> ¡Enhorabuena Liliana!

Martinillo, Anna, no estoy seguro si volando y cayendo se refiere al local o al monstruo... El monstruo debe ser algo de muy feo que salió de la boca del local.

]]> ¡Enhorabuena Liliana!

Martinillo, Anna, no estoy seguro si volando y cayendo se refiere al local o al monstruo... El monstruo debe ser algo de muy feo que salió de la boca del local.

]]> <![CDATA[Re: Watch out!]]> De nada ewong.

]]> De nada ewong.

]]> <![CDATA[Re: ¡Che, vamos a Argentina!]]> La lección es Gossip on Alma. En el dialogo hay esta frase:

Capaz y este hombre Mauricio es irresistible.

(Maybe this guy Mauricio is irresistible!)

Lili y Esti hablan de este uso de capaz a 7:20. Pues, efectivamente no dice que se usa en México sino que no se usa en España.

]]> La lección es Gossip on Alma. En el dialogo hay esta frase:

Capaz y este hombre Mauricio es irresistible.

(Maybe this guy Mauricio is irresistible!)

Lili y Esti hablan de este uso de capaz a 7:20. Pues, efectivamente no dice que se usa en México sino que no se usa en España.

]]> <![CDATA[Re: ¡Che, vamos a Argentina!]]> Hola Martinillo, Liliana también una vez dijo que en México la palabra capaz puede ser usada como equivalente de puede ser, quizá.

]]> Hola Martinillo, Liliana también una vez dijo que en México la palabra capaz puede ser usada como equivalente de puede ser, quizá.

]]> <![CDATA[Re: porque tengas cuidado]]> No don, it's not a it, it's a you. It's true that el tiempo pasa (time goes by), but in this case pasar is like to spend:

Yo pasé una noche maravillosa con mis amigos.

I spent a wonderful night with my friends.

Que (tu) te lo pases bien means (I hope) that you have a good time.

]]> No don, it's not a it, it's a you. It's true that el tiempo pasa (time goes by), but in this case pasar is like to spend:

Yo pasé una noche maravillosa con mis amigos.

I spent a wonderful night with my friends.

Que (tu) te lo pases bien means (I hope) that you have a good time.

]]> <![CDATA[Re: Watch out!]]> Thanks Steve. In fact, I've not yet listened to the audio, but I took tengas cuidado from ewong post.

kikuyu, I'll try to give myself an answer. If you use the second person, you are familiar enough with the person you're talking to, so that you can use ten without fear to sound too harsh. If instead you're not so familiar to her, you'll use the third person usted and you'll have only the option to use the present subjunctive tenga.

don, I've read your post and I think you're right.

]]> Thanks Steve. In fact, I've not yet listened to the audio, but I took tengas cuidado from ewong post.

kikuyu, I'll try to give myself an answer. If you use the second person, you are familiar enough with the person you're talking to, so that you can use ten without fear to sound too harsh. If instead you're not so familiar to her, you'll use the third person usted and you'll have only the option to use the present subjunctive tenga.

don, I've read your post and I think you're right.

]]> <![CDATA[Re: Watch out!]]> Thanks Anna. ;-)

Besides, I thought tengas (present subjunctive) were a gentler way than ten (imperative) to make a recommendation. Am I wrong?

]]> Thanks Anna. ;-)

Besides, I thought tengas (present subjunctive) were a gentler way than ten (imperative) to make a recommendation. Am I wrong?

]]>